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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:56 am   Reply with quote         


TheShaman wrote:
tad he did all the work on another site that does the same stuff we do contest wise.. it IS his composition. then just added the new Heron to HIS old work.


Shaman, I know that. My point is also about originality and authorship.




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:02 am   Reply with quote         


tadams wrote:
TheShaman wrote:
tad he did all the work on another site that does the same stuff we do contest wise.. it IS his composition. then just added the new Heron to HIS old work.


Shaman, I know that. My point is also about originality and authorship.


fair enough... I guess it was "his original" in 2006 Laughing
Rolling Eyes but I hear ya.

Sliver wrote:
in other words he chopped his own chop.. what's wrong with that?


and thats kinda what I'm defending here. though its really not my place to do such.




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:11 am   Reply with quote         


TheShaman wrote:
fair enough... well I guess it was his original in 2006 Laughing
Rolling Eyes but I hear ya.


I may not be making myself clear. Personally I don't have a problem choppin' a previous chop, provided it's substantially different. Secondly, I'm referring to the numerous chops which borrow from other's artwork without providing credit.




Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:16 am   Reply with quote         


tadams wrote:
TheShaman wrote:
fair enough... well I guess it was his original in 2006 Laughing
Rolling Eyes but I hear ya.


I may not be making myself clear. Personally I don't have a problem choppin' a previous chop, provided it's substantially different. Secondly, I'm referring to the numerous chops which borrow from other's artwork without providing credit.


how right you are there..




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:20 am   Reply with quote         


Sliver wrote:
all MY effort goes here , you can count on that, always did..


Ditto Smile




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:34 am   Reply with quote         


tadams wrote:
TheShaman wrote:
fair enough... well I guess it was his original in 2006 Laughing
Rolling Eyes but I hear ya.


I may not be making myself clear. Personally I don't have a problem choppin' a previous chop, provided it's substantially different. Secondly, I'm referring to the numerous chops which borrow from other's artwork without providing credit.


ok I'll give you the substantially different part, cause its really just a paste job into his previous work. but the second point he provided the credit by showing the other sources, http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/Fotart/Egretatthedesertwork.jpg granted he didn't show his previous work from 'the other site' http://www.photoshoptalent.com/photoshop-picture/4482d1812a91d/ but did show the sources all the same. (and thats more than most do here) and it was his work plus the flood filter Rolling Eyes

this is why I always try to include my outside sources in my chops when I need to. just makes things easier on myself. I've been here done this. Where people thought I did more work than I had. Even though it wasn't implied that I had done said work. THAT was a learning experience for sure. and has made ScionShade (Joe) and I pretty good friends. http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/99848/anticipation.html

So in conclusion, I think we are on the same page T. everyone should show their work in a perfect world, but some choose not to do such. meh to each his own. I'm here to have fun, and learn thats it.




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:34 am   Reply with quote         


[quote="tadams"]
ScionShade wrote:
your fellow contestants fully expect that you have entered an original image,


How original is it when the source is integrated into an existing work of art done by someone else?

Good point!! It's claudio's decision to put his images where he wants and enter as many contests that he wants with the same image or even pieces of the image, there is no limit or rules to that, at least not that I am aware of. Plus, it's cool to use source images from different sites because there royalty free, you have permission to alter them, where it can be quite tedious and cost money for copyright free externals.

Wasn't it a few months ago when this occurred http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/115905/100-source.html, now that is really disturbing and I thought copyrighted works were deleted, apparently not Shocked




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:41 am   Reply with quote         


To put it bluntly.. your are cheating yourself... not justthe competition.. all you do is learn that you can copy others work and that gets you into a law suit situation.

not just that but it also reflectes badly on the community as people will associate the community for letting it occur.




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:42 am   Reply with quote         


I have an altogether different point unrelated to the spirit and intentions of this discussion.

Why do the mods keep this thread going if it is talking about an entry for a contest that has not ended yet?

Re: recent thread started by crowned discussing digitalpharaoh's work in the Sky Shot contest (03/19/2007 - 03/22/2007) was locked until the contest ended.




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Post Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:48 am   Reply with quote         


good point voks




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