Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:18 pm   Reply with quote         

Ok soooo,

I have serious issues with depth, I don't know if it's because of my lighting/shading, or lack of detail or i'm not blurring where blur is necessary, or sharpening where it's fitting, or whether I got the perspective all wrong, but I was just wondering if anyone knows a really good tutorial or just general advice, I have a pen and notepad at the ready so anything will help.


Thanks a bunch!

Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:26 pm   Reply with quote         

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Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:45 pm   Reply with quote         

I am also no good at depth in my manipulations i just guess that it is all down to appropriate sizing, blurring and i also use a horizon line if there are people involved.

I am still very tacky at this stuff so please don't take much notice of any advice i give.

Good Luck,
Rob

Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:57 pm   Reply with quote         

YerPalAl wrote:

Start studying photographs. That will help.

*scribbles down* ...gonna go actually start that now. Thanks!

wap2k wrote:

I am also no good at depth in my manipulations i just guess that it is all down to appropriate sizing, blurring and i also use a horizon line if there are people involved.

I am still very tacky at this stuff so please don't take much notice of any advice i give.

horizon line sounds like a good thing to go on, see...you've helped more than you know, have more faith in your advice. It's good! thanks.






Oh by the way....does color have anything to do with depth??? like fading etc.? I can imagine it does, but I'm not sure how.

Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:08 pm   Reply with quote         

I struggle with it too.
When I'm not sure, I follow this rule:

When it's close by, it has more contrast.
When it's in a distance, it loses contrast and sharpness.

For landscapes for example: objects nearby have darker color.
Objects in the distance tend to take more colour from the atmosphere. (At least that's what it looks like)

Maybe someone with more photographic skills can give you a better explenation

Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:10 pm   Reply with quote         

About landscapes:

I said that distance takes more atmospheric colours.
This is what I mean:

You see the mountains in the back and in front. That's a good example to compare it with.

Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:13 pm   Reply with quote         

pepperbel wrote:

YerPalAl wrote:

Start studying photographs. That will help.

*scribbles down* ...gonna go actually start that now. Thanks!

wap2k wrote:

I am also no good at depth in my manipulations i just guess that it is all down to appropriate sizing, blurring and i also use a horizon line if there are people involved.

I am still very tacky at this stuff so please don't take much notice of any advice i give.

horizon line sounds like a good thing to go on, see...you've helped more than you know, have more faith in your advice. It's good! thanks.






Oh by the way....does color have anything to do with depth??? like fading etc.? I can imagine it does, but I'm not sure how.

Yes, indeed it does. I often overlay a light blue color on top of distant items, such as mountains, to enhance the distant feeling. But beware, a little goes a long way . . . . er, so to speak.

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Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:13 pm   Reply with quote         

Or this:

I noticed that not many things in distances contain full black spots.

A trick I use to get objects in the distance look more distant, is to color-overlay that layer with a distance color. Like blue/green mixed and then give it a 30 to 50% fade.

Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:14 pm   Reply with quote         

making a lot of sense....taking notes, taking notes.

contrast. I like contrast, I understand it! Thank you

Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:41 pm   Reply with quote         

http://photoshopcontest.com/tutorials/17/depth-of-field.html

http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/depth-of-field/

http://www.signaturestop.com/miscellaneous-tutorials/depth-photoshop-signature-tutorial/

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Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:50 pm   Reply with quote         

wow this stuff is amazing, thank you guys a bunch!!!! I'm gonna dig in and have myself an artistic buffet

Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:53 pm   Reply with quote         

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Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:35 pm   Reply with quote         

ok here for all the fabulous people's advice, this is what I got;

here's what I used;

but it's not really there yet, can pinpoint where I went wrong though.