I believe I said it was a bit excessive, but not a major issue. It's a valid criticism, because constant identical maps does not come close to relating to similar sources that come up with a fairly low frequency. I believe I also identified that period as a fluke, and an insignificant fraction of the year. People quitting the game due to that map issue does not indicate that people would leave here due to the source images.

The crappy players don't always do well on those maps, there's just a chance they will. They also just like getting more kills, even though they die close to twenty times. I already equated switching lobbies to waiting for the next source in this thread. There are so many sources that come up between your supposed repetitious sources that do not fit in your lack of variety theory.

You still have not responded to my criticism of you lunch analogy. And while we're on the topic of you ignoring things, what do you think of Claf providing some actual insight into why some top choppers aren't participating?

Edit: I'm off to work now, so don't take a massive delay in response from me as a lack of an answer.

You're right, it'll probably eventually die down. That's why we need people (maybe even like you ) to tell us you're getting bored of it. Even with stock sources there's bound to be some accidental repetition and people that don't like what's coming out of it.
At least this way, in our hands, we can say "man, I'd like to see *example*" and make it happen.

There's a member here that used to do photowalks. It's not necessarily for sources, but it made people see things creatively and take some interesting photos. I've pm'd him to see if he wanted to host another one.

If we can get people intentionally looking for things completely out of the ordinary, hopefully it will start showing. Unfortunately it won't likely be for a while as I'm sure there are plenty of old sources still in queue.

You agreed it was excessive. The analogy works just fine.


And there's a better chance that a crappy chopper will do well with an easy source. What's your point again?


I have. Did you or did you not say that I only made one connection when in fact I had made several? You're not an honest broker.



I believe you've been present for enough of this conversation to know how I feel about what he said as it was a subject that had already been brought up before. Did I not already respond to the fact that people might say they just don't have the time, when in fact that may not reflect the reasons accurately? That it may be that since this site became boring, the other things in their life seemed more interesting by comparison? Did I not also state several times that the drop-off due to lack-of-time ought to be offset by the pick-up of newcomers and people who have found more time?

Have I not addressed this issue already, several times? And yet you accuse me of ignoring it?

I will hold you down and shit directly into your mouth if you continue to be this dishonest.

Nope. and good for you. You sound so traveled and superior in every way to my pitiful life.
So you turn down jobs? to work for a fast food place part time so you can go to school?
What are you studying to be, that your previous experience shouldn't already land you an awesome job?

BTW: I'm a pre-press supervisor at a small print shop. I don't claim fame or intellectual superiority. I'm not in it for the money... I do this because the hours are awesome 6-3 M-Th and 6-12 on Fridays with every weekend off... I do this so that I can do the thing I love the most.. Make enough to support my family and spend as much time with my kids as possible.

Ordinary is actually just fine. I nice close-up of a thumb tack, or a view of the inside of a (clean) toilet. Part of the problem of the repetitive sources is that peoples' cameras are drawn to the same "out of the ordinary" things as everyone else.

That's the reason I would like to move to a stock photo system, because professional photographers have honed their eye in such a way that their attention is captured by ordinary items as well.

When I said "out of the ordinary", I meant images we don't see already. Not extraordinary items.

Yep.

I'm studying for the value of the education itself. Ideally, I would like to travel back to Iraq or Afghanistan with a documentary film crew. I've been there before, I know the ropes, and I have experience in production and post-production. It sucked that I had to turn down the Swamp People gig because that would have given me pre-production experience, but another opportunity will come around one day.


I can't say I love working at Jack in the Box, but you know as well as I do there are many factors that go into choosing a job. I'm proud of doing my job right. I'm proud of the responsibilities the management is giving me given how recently I began working there. I'm proud that I show up to work, put in my hours and earn my paycheck.

So when I attack you for saying stupid things and you try to get me back by laughing at my job, I'm fine with that. My job does suck. But I've also put in the hours necessary to learn more about analytic techniques, to learn more about what makes a good analogy vs a bad analogy, what constitutes a substantive disagreement vs and wordy "nuh-uh!" It doesn't mean my arguments are valid just because I'm saying them. It just means that if I tell you you haven't actually explained your disagreement, you ought to consider what I'm telling you. I don't care if I'm wrong, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let anybody off the hook for intellectually dishonest and vapid arguments.

Gotcha.

I was also considering speaking with a mod about working with me to start an advantage AND non-advantage source collection thread.The prize would be "Not having repetitive sources for a while."

My idea could use work though before going into effect.
Basically, I'd ask everyone to submit one image to me through email at a time with the proper source specifications, and I'd make a much smaller (unchoppably small) version of it to post here, just to give people an idea of what it is.
After an image of a certain item is posted (such as a thumbtack) no other thumbtacks will be accepted.
Quality would be monitored of course.
At the end of say, a week... two weeks, whatever, they'd all be dumped into the source queue. If people wanted their name on it we could just edit a "source by *name*" into an unimportant part of the image.

It'd just give some non-paying members a chance to share if they wanted and reduce the repetition.
It's not necessarily a long run fix, but I don't see why we couldn't do something like this once every few months.

This way we'd still be voting, but it will already be on items that can't be repeated.

Thoughts? critique?

Break time. Here we go.

You are latching onto one point and ignoring the others. Something you do often.

I provided more reasons for why the lunch analogy is a steaming pile of shit. You ignored those.

I mocked that argument twice already. It completely invalidates your original argument. If you discard people's answers to the question of why they stopped chopping, you must discard your own. You must also discard the reasoning behind the people quitting the game, since people are incapable of self reflection. You are left with nothing at that point. You can't ignore people's answers and use your own as the cornerstone of your argument. This shows your incredible arrogance, since you think you are the only person capable of stating why you're not chopping, and you even think you can answer for other people who provided different reasoning. It's an absurd argument, and you can't apply it to only other people.

Hey Werdnaibor. You've only been at PSC since May yet you are going on like you own the place. I don't mean to be nasty but you know fuck all about this place and the many members that used to chop here.

Ah canna change the laws o' physics cap'n...

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I don't need to have been here to argue against flawed arguments.

*facepalm*

Hold on, you provided those "reasons" only after I called you out for telling me that I only made one connection? Yes or no?

I've stopped addressing your "reasons" because you're a troll.