A crucifixion of a new member http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/199314/the-brave-cat.html and less than a slap on the wrist for same shit http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/199079/majestic-guards.html So exciting

i think Tarmac just did the right thing, to say how it works here

I did not have a reason to question Herman's entry at the time. As a matter a fact, I liked it. It was a great entry and Herman won. kinetic_be discovered that Herman used other artist's photoshoped work for the background, after the contest. I felt cheated. By not posting a source Herman led me to belief that he created the background himself. I let it slide, even though I did not like his explanation. As a consequence, I rarely, if ever, vote for Herman's work. I just had to react in this case. I agree it is wrong to use outside source in this manner. To my eye, they both did wrong. Only difference is that a new guy took much more beating than experienced member for doing a same thing. I felt that's not fair. As billtvshow told me once, "it's not cool man" would be much more appropriate in this situation. Cheers

I believe our new member knew what he was doing. Looking at other entries he did for a ratio of source to photoshopped work, shows he knew what trickery he was doing. If you look closely at his entry in question and the source, you’ll see that only the cat’s eyes were pasted in (and part of the snout and nose) . Everything else remained the original artist's work. After being caught, he compounded more mistrust by attempting to fool everyone, by saying he had given credit to the artist who did all the work all a long. Which he only added in later.

As for Herman, I think chicanery applies here too. Not citing the elements he used were photoshopped by someone else before he used them. The best practices here is to use ordinary, non-photoshopped elements, and manipulate them into the source artistically yourself. So yes, you have a good point.

Last word, PSC is a peer reviewed process. During the Ol’ PSC days, nothing got by anyone, because everyone was looking, re-examining, asking how did you do that, learning off each other. Today I think we are a bit too chummy with each other, and just let things slide.

I think it would be a good idea for people not to vote for entries that use other people's photoshopped work in their image,unless they include links to the externals and give rightful credit to the author.

"Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage."

Publilius Syrus